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post Jul 7 2010, 08:08 PM
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Anyone know of a good way to freshen up the old blue rub rail? There is little to no damage to it just a little dingy looking. I was thinking about trying Armorall or something but wanted to get some ideas. Any thought? Thanks.

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post Jul 8 2010, 05:33 AM
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Pressure wash then your favorite rubber protectant! I personally like that aged, work look that compliments the older classics!


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post Jul 9 2010, 06:12 AM
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I personally like that aged, work look that compliments the older classics!


I agree, which is why I want to keep it. I love the rope insert! Just wanted to clean it up a bit. I will try the pressure washer this weekend. Thanks.

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post Jul 9 2010, 07:06 AM
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I have the rope insert on my 81 1820. Periodically when it gets really bad, like at the stern, I mix 50 50 bleach and water, spray the area and walk away.


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post Jul 9 2010, 03:24 PM
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You can pull it out starting a foot from the stern turn it over and re install. Mix the 50/50 bleach spray it on and pressure wash and it will look like new (unless it was a factory boat and we already did it before LoL). SHHHHH (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


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post Jul 31 2010, 11:13 AM
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I have a 1988 R2660, after 22 years I am planning on replacing the rope. Hard to determine correct size. Is it 5/8 or 3/4
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post Jul 31 2010, 07:53 PM
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It was should be 3/4 inch but you can hit it with a bleach in a spray bottle mixed with a lil dawn degrease dish soap and saturate it . Hit it with a stiff hand brush and finally let i t set for about 2 beers. Then take the pressure washer to it . OK Now that thats done and clean lets start taking the rope out all the way to the
bow. Starting at the stern put it back in on the clean side . A LITTLE bit of Vaseline on the rubber makes the rope go back in. ( watch it guys we got that G rating)If you can get someone to run a 1 inch piece of PVC right in front of you and push it back into place to the bow.
Once that side is done do the other. Bad news now you have to clean this side like the other BUT it wont have any dock rash.
If you take it off it WILL NOT GO BACK ON all the way as it will shrink 2-3 feet. You can Tye on another piece of rope to it and using two vehicles to stretch it back out but only works 1/2 the time.

Either way good luck as I will be doing mine after the boat is ready just before painting.


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post Jul 31 2010, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (mrrobalo @ Jul 31 2010, 08:53 PM) *
It was should be 3/4 inch but you can hit it with a bleach in a spray bottle mixed with a lil dawn degrease dish soap and saturate it . Hit it with a stiff hand brush and finally let i t set for about 2 beers. Then take the pressure washer to it . OK Now that thats done and clean lets start taking the rope out all the way to the
bow. Starting at the stern put it back in on the clean side . A LITTLE bit of Vaseline on the rubber makes the rope go back in. ( watch it guys we got that G rating)If you can get someone to run a 1 inch piece of PVC right in front of you and push it back into place to the bow.
Once that side is done do the other. Bad news now you have to clean this side like the other BUT it wont have any dock rash.
If you take it off it WILL NOT GO BACK ON all the way as it will shrink 2-3 feet. You can Tye on another piece of rope to it and using two vehicles to stretch it back out but only works 1/2 the time.

Either way good luck as I will be doing mine after the boat is ready just before painting.


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Thanks for the info and tip. The rope is so old there are actually sections that are missing. Plan on repairing tomorrow.
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post Aug 1 2010, 06:12 AM
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Check your local home improvement store. The Home Depot by me carries 3/4 rope that will match up.


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post Aug 1 2010, 08:21 AM
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If you are going to replace it get a piece of pipe/PVC that the rope will just go through.

Cut a 45* on one end.

Then run the new rope through it.

Put Vaseline on the angled end.

Next start at the transom leaving 6 inches hanging off the end of the rubber and force the tube in the rubber at a 45* angle as this spreads the rubber open and begin SLOWLY walking down the gunnel.

You need a helper feed the rope into the top of the pipe as you walk around the boat sliding the rope into the rubrail.

The hardest part is the bow due to the rubber wanting to push the pipe out as you round the bow section.

Once you turn the corner it's downhill after that just don't try to go to fast as if it pops out it is a bear to get going again.

Once you get it all the way around you can work on the ends.

Tape the end where you want to cut it and using a propane torch burn it quickly and have a spray bottle of water to stop it from charing too much and with a old knife (heated up with the torch) pat the ends as smooth as you can.

I will tell you to take care with this part as it will effect your whole job if the rope scorches to much.


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Use the old end caps and use a NEW SHARP drill bit to go through the rope so it will not cause unraveling. You can heat the bit first but not to much just enough so it won't stick pulling it out.

YOUR DONE .

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post Aug 1 2010, 05:34 PM
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Sammy Joe:
Thanks for the instructions. Got as far as purchasing the line, but realized I should have someone help me. Waxed the hull instead.
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post Aug 2 2010, 05:32 PM
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If you can post a
Pic of the ends where it attaches as there were a few differnt ways the workers attached them . Also there is a piece of alum drilled and is where the mounting screws attach it. I have in the past Seen some (on warranty boats ) corrosion all along due to the differnt metals . Pick up a small wire wheel that will go between the rubber and reach the mounting hardware . A steel or brass wheel will work as I keep both on hAnd but like brass as it works good and doesn't leave sanding marks but goes away fairly fast compaired to steel but you don't n care as it will be hidden. You might not find any . Also he's a hand held Philips head screwdriver handy to tighten up the mounting screws . You can use a cordless driver but SET THE TORK SETTING so you don't ruin the heads and don't strip it out.
I figure your there and she is not getting any younger LoL but it won't hurt to tighten her up while your there.
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post Aug 4 2010, 06:50 PM
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Sammy Joe:
Got the rub rail line installed this afternoon. Looks great. Ended up using the plastic thru hull fitting from the bilge pump which I replaced today to feed the line through. The thru hull fitting on the outside broke off. I was going to recommend tightening the rub rail screws as you go along because they do seem to loosen with age. I did not think of that until i got to the other side of the boat. A twenty minute job and a six pack of enjoyment after it was done. Got the boat back in the water this afternoon and look forward to the fall striper run. Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement. Will post a picture or two when I get a chance. The end terminations in the stern were stainless with two screws holding in place. Factory used tape to secure ends vice heating up the rope ends. I am sure that is why I lost the sten section of rope on the port side.
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post Aug 4 2010, 10:54 PM
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I like it when a plan comes together . My pleasure helping. Thats what the forum is all about. Post a pic with a ROBALO tee to make it look even better , Will work for Tee shirts LOL


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post Aug 10 2010, 08:17 AM
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Pictures attached. I think?
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:01 AM
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Rope and Boat Look great! Nice party deck on the house too!


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