Moderating the discussion...see Joyce's responses below to our collective concerns...
Thanks very much,
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From: Captain Joyce Nolen <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: 1/25/18 1:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Mike R."
Subject: Re: Dan's comments on Two reinforcing struts? on port side of cuddy
I will send fresh set of photos in a little while – need to clean them up a little first.
My answers & comments are highlighted in YELLOW – see below.
From: Mike R.
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:49 AM
To: 'Captain Joyce Nolen'
Subject: FW: Dan's comments on Two reinforcing struts? on port side of cuddy
Mornin’, Cap’n Joyce!
I hope that crab sandwich last night (what was the name of that place, The Crusty Crab or something?) was as good as it sounded when we spoke! No doubt you well deserved it after our conversation and yesterday’s survey! The CRAB BAG..................I got Crabs at the Crab Bag in Ocean City, MD. -- LOL I picked a couple of Hardshells and they were YUMMY! Very expensive so I only get a couple at a time. They fly them up from Louisiana during the winter and Chesapeake Bay crabs spring, summer & fall. Best Crabs in the WORLD!
I hooked-up Dan with your photos and sent him pics of those port side boxed supports we were perplexed by. He made some comments below this message and those came selected from comments which he made in the attached document. You and I covered most of his questions, but if you could let me know on your take on his questions here and his comments below about possible hull twisting, I’d be grateful!
I’ve reattached the photos in-question here for you for easy viewing…
DSC09124 What is that extending from the hull bottom?
TRANSDUCER MOUNTED TO FARING BLOCK.
DSC09173 Stress crack; odd that there is a chunk cracked like that, though. Normal stress cracks are a single line.
I THINK IT’S SLOPPY LAY-UP WITH POSSIBLE VOID UNDER GEL COAT.
DSC09174 More stress cracks in one area than I would have expected.
DSC09181 Not sure about this one.
Different angle of the previous photo – stress crack running from the 90 degree turn to the caulk line.
DSC09185 Tank date of 10/18/93. Original tank. Does Joyce have any reservations about the age of the tank, seeing that it is not coated?
8” deck plate over top of the fuel cell has no gasket / O-ring in place to help keep it water tight. Salt water has gotten to the tank – at least on the top as seen in this photo and the next photo. Tank is now 25 years old – I would replace with poly tank after installing new access deck plate. At least the cockpit sole is designed to pull up middle section for replacing / accessing the fuel cell. I have read the ‘AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY’ for a 5052 Aluminum Fuel Cell is only 15 years – that blows my mind! I just reviewed a couple of Chat Rooms for boat owners and see that another surveyor claims the Life Expectancy is anywhere from 6 months to 15 years – depends on installation such as a tank that is ‘foamed-in’, salt water exposure, etc.
DSC09187 Where is this in the boat? A piece of un-treated yellow pine? Looks like the aluminum under that stainless washer does not have much life left. And what is with the 2 boards over to the right? If they are something the owner tossed under there, that is ok. But the 2x4 looks like it was part of the original build. This is the L-Bracket for securing the fuel cell.
You are looking at the top of the fuel cell. Way to much pitting / corrosion, although it passed the mechanics pressure test – I fear it is doomed.
They should have Isolated the stainless steel bolt and fender washer when installed – rubber grommet would have help. You are right, they used a section of untreated 2 X 4 wood for bolting fuel tank in place. Coast Guard Standards state a fuel tank is not permitted to move more than 1/4” IN ANY DIRECTION. The one L-Bracket I could see is basically useless – I fear the tank will shift and / or bounce when boat is in a chop. I am not sure what those 2 boards laying directly on top of the tank are doing there? Might just be a platform for storage. Should not store anything on top of a fuel tank.
If you want to pull the tank, inspect and determine it is still serviceable after you’ve cleaned all surfaces – research this product for coating the tank: www.por15.com. It’s a hard paint used to coat surfaces you want to protect against rust / corrosion – it basically water proofs everything it touches. Just make sure it is OK to use over 5052 Aluminum. I’ve never used it.
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From: Dan Rogerson
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:56 PM
To: 'Mike R.'
Subject: RE: Two reinforcing struts? on port side of cuddy
They appear to be factory molded into the cabin liner from what I can see in the pictures. I can understand the one at the sink being used for plumbing and electrical, but cannot figure out what the forward one would be used for. Definitely molded in by factory when the boat was built. I refer to them as ‘KNEES’ and are designed to add additional strength to hull top sides. See them all the time in wooden boats.
See the attached document with my comments. Some of the stuff is just age, but some of those cracks, especially DSC09181, have me wondering if there was enough hull flexing to work on the liner. Depending on where this particular picture was located, there may be the possibility of the hull twisting…that is why I was wondering about the stringers in the messages earlier tonight…Accessible bulkheads and stringers were good.
“Bulkheads are the frames that keep the sides from flexing in and out whereas the stringers keep the running surface rigid and not to flex up and down. Did Joyce mention anything about the stringers or signs of stress cracks on the bottom of the hull where the stringers would be located and tied into the hull?” I did not see any stress cracks on wetted surface area, but please bear in mind the hull was bottom painted and boat was sitting on a rack with other boats fairly close along each side of the Stratos. I will get much better visual when they pick the boat up to splash for sea trial. Mallet soundings were very solid with no elevated moisture. I could not access the keel area, except from the transom. Boat was too close to the ground and the support bunks made it impossible. Will have great access when boat is lifted with fork lift.
FYI – The seacocks I could reach – handles were so stiff I could not exercise them. I will recommend they be removed and serviced making sure they are in good operable condition prior to reinstalling.
I get the feeling the vessel’s owner has done zero general maintenance – he goes fishing and goes home – boat is crying for attention.
The headliner in cabin is free of staining and mold / mildew which is not the norm for a vessel this age. No staining indicates the overhead deck hardware is not allowing water intrusion which the end result is always ugly dark water stains throughout the headliner with mold.
Looking forward to see the bulkhead pictures and any other comments from Joyce. Based on what I have seen so far, I agree with you on your assessment. My concern now is what about the things that cannot be visually inspected.
The boat would probably be fine for inshore and river use. How will it react in 3 ft slop is something that you need to consider in case the tabbing of supporting structures has been compromised.
Why is it so damn difficult to find a decent boat?!?